The gang was back together for another Midnight Sun Monday night chat on conventions! You can watch the replay on our YouTube channel!
Next Fandom YouTube Chat Set for June 8
The Fansite Ops who have been meeting regularly to talk about Midnight Sun and fandom in general have decided to meet next Monday June 8 to talk about fancamp and movie releases! If you have questions you would like for us to answer, drop it below or contact us on twitter! We we will meet at our regular time 8:00 EST and 5:00 PT on the Lexicon’s YouTube channel!
Midnight Sun Monday night fandom chat!
Thank you to everyone who joined us on our first fandom chat last Monday night! We are doing it again! Most of the gang will be back, but Kallie is sitting out and Amanda from Twilight Examiner will be joining us!
We will be talking about the book covers – especially the Midnight Sun book cover. We will also talk about book releases, book signings, and meeting Stephenie. I also have been told that there may be some big news for one of our sites, so you won’t want to miss this!
We will be on our YouTube channel Monday night at 8pm EST. That’s 5pm for anyone on the west coast! If you have any specific questions ahead of time, drop a comment and let us know. We hope to see you there!
Weekly Fandom Chat on YouTube
We had a great time tonight chatting with our fandom friends about Midnight Sun! We were considering doing a weekly show where we talk with various fans – old and new – on various Twilight related topics. If this is something you think we should do, leave us a comment with a specific discussion theme or question you’d like addressed.
What year is it again???
Fansite Chat about Midnight Sun
We’re getting the band back together! Several of the fansite ops from days of yore have been chatting behind the scenes about the Midnight Sun news and we thought it would be fun to bring it out into the open! Monday May 11 at 8:00 EST 5:00 PT time, we will host a live stream event on the Lexicon’s YouTube channel for you to tune into, watch, and even ask questions. We will have a direct link for you later today. https://www.youtube.com/user/TwilightLexicon/ (Yes, we realized we’ve updated this link like three times…isn’t figuring out the technology fun when you haven’t done it everyday for 8 years? Anyway…we’ve got it down now. Hope you all can join us.)
Alphie and Pel (Lori and Laura) from the Lexicon will both be there as will Kallie from Twilight Series Theories, OhMyCarlisle (Amy) from Page to Premiere, Kara O from Twilight Moms, and Tashopolis (Natasha) from Page to Premiere.
We will be talking about our thoughts and reactions to the Midnight Sun news as well as sharing favorite fandom stories. If you have questions you’d like to have us answer, leave them below or join us for the livestream where you can participate.
Fandom Flashback: The Twilight Saga Playlists
When I first visited Stephenie Meyer’s website back in 2006, there was one list that caught my attention right away. It was the playlist of songs that she drew inspiration from while writing her book. As a musical person, I understood how much music could mean to a story and was very interested to get deeper into the story based on what I could learn from the music that inspired Stephenie. Some of the songs on the list were familiar, but I must admit to not knowing the majority of the songs named. I didn’t keep up with the music scene other than what is popular on the radio. I like to think that my musical horizons have grown considerably since being introduced to the playlists and movie soundtracks. But back in 2006, I had never even heard of Linkin Park let alone any of their music! I thought it would be interesting to take a look back at the playlists and the impact music has had on the Twilight fandom and vise versa.
MY INTRODUCTION TO THE PLAYLISTS
As I got to know Stephenie and talked to her more and more, she sent me a package of appealing items including several CDs that she burned which had the playlists for all of her current work. Now, keep in mind that at this time only the Twilight playlist was posted on her website. So what she sent me from Twilight was exactly the same. However there are some differences from what she sent me for the other playlists for the books that weren’t even published yet.
Let’s start with New Moon. She included “I Miss You” by Blink 182 on the CD for New Moon. The song was then listed as an alternate when she officially posted the playlist on her website. I’m not sure why, but there were so many alternates that represent how much Bella missed Edward. Perhaps she felt this just fit better lumped in with the rest of the alternates. There were also a few songs added to the final list that she were not included on the list that she sent. Surprisingly, “Sing for Absolution” by Muse as well as “D.O.A.” by Foo Fighters and the rest of the alternate list were not named. To me this shows how her attention to the music of Muse grew and grew the deeper into her story she went. (It also tells me that there are a lot of songs out there about heartbreak, and Stephenie had too many songs to choose from!)
The playlists for Eclipse and Breaking Dawn were where the majority of the changes happened. Eclipse had been written at the time she sent me these CD’s even though it wouldn’t be published for another year and a half, but a contract for Breaking Dawn was still under consideration. Based on the list of songs that she sent me, I believe Stephenie was planning for the possibility that she would have to include the wedding and honeymoon in Eclipse. I think this was her stand by idea has she not been granted the opportunity to write Breaking Dawn. And remember, she had written Forever Dawn by this time, which included the wedding, honeymoon, pregnancy, birth, and transformation of Bella into a vampire.
She sent me two CDs for Eclipse which she called Book 1 and Book 2. She also said Book 2’s list was under heavy construction! The CD for Book 1 did not include “Hamburg Song” by Keane, “Love Me Like You” by The Magic, “Infra-Red” by Placebo, “Yes, Please” by Muse, “It’s a Disaster” by OK Go, or any of the alternates. Again, this could mean that she found more and more songs the longer she worked on the book.
Where it gets really interesting is in the playlist CD for Book 2. I believe this list covers what might have been possible wedding and honeymoon scenes, should it have become necessary. It’s a short CD, the shortest of all the CDs she sent. But it has so many songs that didn’t make it to the final cut for the Breaking Dawn playlist. The first song on the list is “Not For All the Love in the World” by The Thrills. I had never heard the song before, and I fell totally in love with it! I was also surprised it didn’t make the final cut. But if you look at the real playlist, she opened the list with a tongue-in-cheek look at the wedding and the happiness surrounding it. The next song that was cut was “Your Body is a Wonderland” by John Mayer, which obviously suggests a honeymoon scene that takes place in the fade-to-black- moment of the book. “My Very Best” by Elbow was also cut. It’s a Jacob song, in my opinion, given that this playlist doesn’t dwell on the pregnancy. Otherwise it might have had something to do with Edward’s feelings when he thought Bella was going to die. But the most surprising cut for me was a song by Blue October called “She’s My Ride Home.” This song suggests to me a situation with Bella and Edward as vampires living their happily ever after. Again, it’s become one of my favorite Twilight related songs, even if it didn’t make the real playlist.
She did send me seven songs for Midnight Sun, all of which are posted on her playlist except for one. The song “Click Click Boom” by Saliva is listed as the second song on my Midnight Sun CD. Given that there are ten other songs on the official playlist that weren’t on my CD, and the fact that the book isn’t really finished yet, I’d say that any changes to the list shouldn’t be a surprise.
THE IMPACT OF THE PLAYLISTS ON THE ARTISTS
I don’t think anyone anticipated the fact that fans of a book series would become so engrossed in the music that inspired the author. But as it has been proven time and again, Twilight fans are different and a new standard was set. Fans of the saga embraced the artists named on the playlists and became overly supportive.
Bands like Coldplay, Linkin Park, Collective Soul, and Travis did gain some new fans. They weren’t exactly obscure or underground bands, but for those people, like me, who had been stuck in a music rut, it did open some new doors. Linkin Park especially made some headway in popularity for the fact that Stephenie told fans that it was their song “With You” that Bella listened to just after hearing the story of the Cold Ones. Stephenie also informed fans that the song “By Myself” is the soundtrack to the action sequence in Port Angeles. “When I read Twilight, I hear the first beat of this song when Bella glances over her shoulder and sees the men following behind her,” she explains. “Then the scene and the song play out together.” Songs from Linkin Park appear on all of the playlists except for Eclipse.
Blue October is another band that gained attention from being on the playlists. I remember at one point getting an e-mail from Stephenie about having discovered this new band that she felt nearly every song they sang could fit in her playlists. I looked for the e-mail and can’t find it. (Sorry, that was over five years and three computers ago!) But I do remember her telling me about the song “Hate Me” and how much that fit Edward. It surprised me later on that the song was listed as only an alternate. Blue October first appeared on the New Moon playlist, which again points to the fact that Stephenie found them after Twilight was published but before New Moon was published. Her relationship with the band grew so much that she was allowed to listen to some of the unpublished music and in so doing discovered the song “My Never” and said it was the perfect fit for what happens just before Jacob imprints. She even included lead singer Justin Furstenfeld on her four city book tour for Breaking Dawn where he performed the song.
Without question the band that has been impacted the greatest by the inclusion on the playlists is Muse. Stephenie mentioned them in the acknowledgements for New Moon and Eclipse and even dedicated Breaking Dawn to them. Seventeen of their songs appear on the various playlists, making them the most repeated and used band for the saga. They were also included on the Twilight, New Moon, and Eclipse soundtracks by composing three new songs for the films. Stephenie had even held out hopes that Matt Bellamy would write Bella’s lullaby for the film. When the Breaking Dawn soundtrack was announced and Muse was notably absent, fans let their opinions out!
Paige said: As great as this soundtrack seems, the lack of Muse is beyond upsetting. I suppose there’s no hard and fast rule that they must be included, but it’s been a nice way to relate back to the books and Stephenie herself.
Mel said: What?! No Muse? But instead we got stuck with Bruno Mars? Ugh. Besides the fact that there is no Muse, *insert frustrated sigh*, and the appearance of Bruno Mars, *insert disgusted sigh*, the soundtrack looks good.
Fiona said: Disappointed does not even begin to cover it with this track list. Who is their right mind would leave Muse out and replace them with Bruno Mars. I am so furious. Muse inspired so much of the writing of The Twilight Saga and they have been in every soundtrack until now.
Collective Soul, Linkin Park, Death Cab For Cutie, OK Go, and The Killers have all made the important crossover from playlist to soundtrack along with Muse. Likewise, new bands like Paramore and Sleeping at Last have gained tremendous recognition and support for being on the film sound track. One requirement for being on the soundtrack is that the song has to be completely new, which means no songs from the playlists can be on a film soundtrack. The films can still play homage to the playlists by including the bands from the playlists that fans love on the soundtrack. However fans are holding out hopes that not only will Muse be included on the final soundtrack for the saga, but that Blue October, which has never been on any of the film soundtracks, will finally be given a place on the list.
THE IMPACT OF THE PLAYLIST ON OTHER AUTHORS
The way Stephenie Meyer has linked music and reading through her playlists has forever changed the face of YA fiction. It’s seems obvious now to consider that since teens listen to music, bringing music into books will only spark their interest more! But back when I first saw Stephenie’s playlist for Twilight, I considered it a new and original thing to include for a book. It’s almost impossible these days to find an up and coming popular YA writer who doesn’t have a playlist! Readers go looking for them, ask for them, expect them! Cassandra Claire, Ally Condie, Stephanie Perkins, Myra McEntire, Josephine Angelini, Kimberly Derting, and Julie Kagawa all have playlists for their series and books. And when an author doesn’t have an official playlist, fans create them and debate which songs should be included.
Even with all the attention to playlists that comes from other authors, I don’t think any other series has impacted music the way the Twilight Saga has. With each book release in the saga, making the playlist has meant attention and publicity for the bands. Stephenie has mentioned many times that the fame of the saga surprises her. I wonder if she ever thought she would have so much of an impact on music as well.
Now it’s your turn to chime in. We want to know which songs on the playlists have meaning for you. Tell us in the comments if you have discovered a band because of the playlists. Which bands are your favorites? Is there a song you wish Stephenie had included on a list? And which bands from the playlist do you hope make it on the Breaking Dawn Part 2 soundtrack?
Many thanks to Heidi Bennett from Twilight Facebook for the playlist from other authors!
Fandom Flashback: The Stephenie Meyer Book Signing
I was introduced to Twilight by a friend of mine from church in January of 2006. Like so many of you who fell in love with the story, I went on line to look for other people who liked the story that I could talk to. There wasn’t much to find at the time. What I did find was that Stephenie Meyer had her own website full of pictures of her trip to Forks with her sister, a few outtakes from the book, and some information on what had happened at a few of her book signings. The way she described it, before the actual signing she met with about 10 – 15 fans and just sat and chatted about Edward and the story in what she called an “I Love Edward Cullen” party. I was jealous. I wanted to go to one of those! Unfortunately, these were all held in October – December of 2005 just after the book released and were mostly out west in Utah and Arizona where Stephenie was from. Still, once I leaned there would be sequels to the series I was determined to someday be at a book signing and gush with Stephenie about how much I had fallen for the character of Edward Cullen.
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Fandom Flashback!
In the various opportunities we’ve had over the years to talk to and meet with fans around the country, we find that most of them became fans because of their interest in the movies. Many of you saw the movie and then read the books and fell in love with the series on a whole other level. But those of you that came into the fandom after the movies missed out on some of the most unique experiences the fandom had to offer.
We are going to start a series called “Fandom Flashback” where we will be talking about events and experiences that happened in the early days of the fandom. This will allow long time fans a chance to chime in and share photos and experiences. It also gives you newer fans a chance to take a peek at some of the things you might have missed along the way. Since this fandom has been going strong for over five years, we really do want and need your feedback to help us being this series to life.
We plan on featuring experiences like E-Prom, trips to Forks, book release parties, early casting drama, Twilight bands and playlist hype, and many more! If you have a good idea for us to discuss, we want to hear about it! What experiences have you heard about – or even heard rumors about – that you’d like to see featured in a possible Fandom Flashback? Let us know in the comments.
For our first Fandom Flashback, we will be talking about the early days of book signings with Stephenie Meyer. If you went to one of the first book signing, we want to hear from you! Personally, I never made it to a Twilight book signing. I went to a few for New Moon, but I missed out on those small gatherings known as the “I Love Edward Cullen” parties! If you were around when Twilight first came out and were able to attend one of those very first signings with Stephenie, we need your input! Log in and leave a comment below with a quick summary of where you went for your signing and we will contact you for more details!
We really would like this to be a feature driven by the fans! Your input is vital, so let us know what you want to see and talk about. We’re looking forward to hearing your stories and sharing in some fun and entertaining memories.
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